Pictured is one such unique example. SIG Sauer Tango MSR Optic Review: Your Value & Performance LPVO. There are many possible combinations of We received more rescued Lugers from Canada this week! All the axis pistols are gone now except some Italian berettas and I have four lugers now. Simson & Company - Suhl, Germany&break;4. Description. by Poot 06 May 2016, 07:54, Post and - S. H. 133. are hidden, being located under the cover flap, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s are prominently marked. links[4]='http://www.theoldbrigade.co.uk'; centered in the federal states of Prussia, Bavaria, Baden, Wuerttemberg, On the back, between the belt loops is a Nazi Eagle, short wingsAlmost Police looking but cannot be as it is a WaAThe # appears to be JL16. 1908/13 five-digit s/n commercial-military-police Luger. Pictured below are several Police Training and Instruction manuals dating from 1921 through 1949. The lower of the two (brass) studs is not an original German stud. Additionally perplexing and unclear is the reason or purpose for a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster. In the TBLAP, Fig. II. It is described as "Berlin Police Armory Acceptance Stamp. The holster conversion was similar to the below example 2 except that it is stamped on the rear with the original holstered police Luger serial number 5008, and fortunately the holster still retains the matching 5008 serial number stamped loading tool. the precincts held the long cleaning rods, similar to the navy P.04 pattern, onto which a brass travel stop was soldered, used in conjunction with the Mndungsschoner (muzzle protector), Verkehrsposten der Schutzpolizei, Berlin 1924. 4. Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles. Chapter 1 Making Modern Germany Chapter 2 Policing Germany, including Police Unit Marks that the German police exceeded the limit of 150,000 by 30,000 men and If one were to attempt to take a WW1 holster & bubba it up for profit. The leather, stitching and markings are complete. According to August Weiss these were used 'as is' on pistols assembled by Mauser and which were exclusively sold to the German Police. But when Nazi party came to power, and started preparation. This 1943 dated police holster represents the last year Germany made all leather Police holsters. I own a u suffix luger with a blank toggle. The first 1920s Weimar era police Luger holster of new manufacture to be recognized as such is not manufacture marked is a black dyed leather, full cover flap with a holster body attached, pear-shaped up-strap secured to the cover flap without a keeper via the leather slit and brass stud method. Pictured is an (officers) Upper Silesian "Landespolizei" buckle. Note, these two WaAJL16 holsters are in private collections and are not pictured or discussed in any prior Luger publications, except on Luger forum sites with the last mention of the WaAJL16 stampings being discussed in 2008. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in Buy GERMAN LUGER P08 POLICE MAGAZINE WITH DOVE MARKING EARLY POLICE VERY RARE: GunBroker is the largest seller of WW1 & WW2 Collectibles Collectibles & Militaria All: 961041063 . It is interesting to note however that no pistols having a blank toggle and the 'v' suffix have been reported so far. With the reorganization of the police carried out on 6 October 1920, the factual responsibility of the new police has been considerably expanded. Here are the rare Lugers (PHOTOS). the Interestingly, the cut-back artillery to purportedly, police conversions with toe plugs rarely have added twin belt loops. N.b.5. Has been dyed black long ago. One of GT's luger mounts arrived a couple of days ago. Pictured for comparison are examples 1 and 2. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 4 ----------------------------------------------------------. Weimar era Police cleaning rods are easily identified by their 7-ring wooden barrel type handles vs. the Imperial era artillery LP.08 and navy P.04 with their 6-ring wooden barrel type wooden handles.The use of these new style police cleaning rods, which coincidently are the last design and use of a wooden barrel handle cleaning rod for the P.08, is described by Sturgess in TBLAP, VIII, C19, pp 1331, 1332 as follows: Most were fitted with bell-shaped brass stops, soft soldered on their shafts, to give the correct length, 130 135mm approximately, for cleaning the barrel of the short P.08 when used with the Mndungsschoner (muzzle protector) which was then in police service. Collectors tend to err toward a variation. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.G. 1929 police luger markings on side plate and back of frame User Name: Remember Me? On the grip strap there are the markings L.Me.284. Kriminalpolizei (detective force), Assigned to In actuality, both above statements are correct, as the first statement that a majority of the cut-back LP.08 holsters used by the police are without a police cleaning rod is accurate, however, in cannot be denied that some, at least one, in this instance, was modified (unsuccessfully), specifically to carry the police cleaning rod as evidenced the very rare subject example. The two-piece assembly can also be This particular Police bayonet has been described not as Dress bayonet because it has an issue number on both the bayonet and the scabbard and as such its not a dress bayonet, but a duty bayonet and that they wore these on Patrol. Military Control Commission), was established to enforce the provisions of is described in great detail on page 25, Figure 18, see page 137 of Eugene Bender's "Luger Holsters & Accessories" for a similarly marked holster, RIA 2013 Paul Goldner RBD Halle holster, sold for $3133, Poulin 2015 Auction, Bahnschutz holster, front view only, eBay Auction, 1933 Paul Goldner Halle a. S. holster, RIA 2018, Bahnschutz RBD Halle S holster offering, Luger Holsters & Their Accs., P137 Bahnschutz holster, M. Morris, This association is not supported by any distinguishing markings different from any other, later style, purportedly Magdeburg Depot rework Mg10 Stick Wing eagle stamps have been identified on the rear frame of P08 Lugers, Weimar eagle style E/Mg10 stampings of the 41 dated WwMg/41 and E/Mg10 P08 holsters, a stand-alone E/Mg10 Nazi Swastika stamping on a 1933 dated Robert Larsen Weimar era Police holster, two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle, an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp, a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp, Only two are identified in publications and only partial pictures, made of impregnated pressed paper and is pictured in TPLAP, V3, page 1245 Fig. I am interested in the following symbols on the bottom side of the magazine, too. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in In Third Reich Lugers 1988 by J. Borge Villy Redsted Pertersen, alias 'Lieutenant Larsen' and other cover names, was among those who overcame. This is exactly what I believe happened to this holster. by von thoma 07 May 2016, 02:26, Post This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjernes Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN marked police holster with a Weimer era Sunburst K police inspection stamp; view 1. It might be that a few H.P. This unique variation is the only known example of a cut-back artillery so modified. ad[1]='http://www.germandaggers.com/banners/Cash1.jpg'; Upcoming Auctions Auctions Near Me How Auctions Work | Help . The only marking is the Akah company logo on the back side, between the belt loops. Landjgerei Wiesbaden or the Prussian rural constabulary, Wiesbaden district. The first stamp of WwMg/41 may signify Waffenwerk Magdeburg. stands for. Still. 3 5 in Book II, Police Chief Baetsch, Ministry of the Interior, kindly supported me, for which I would like to express my warmest thanks to him. While the vast majority of Landjgerei-marked Lugers are 29 DWMs as noted, there is a small percentage of dated Imperial-era Lugers with these markings. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. view 3. The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion was done to a 1918 dated Dingeldey & Werres-Berlin artillery holster. The S.E.I. revolutionaries. Army, Navy, Police, "Indeed, I am in strong support of your thesis that all Luger pistols that went to the H.P contract were produced and delivered by DWM in 1929. There are at least two examples, as of this writing of a cut-back artillery Luger holster, where there is no doubt that a multiple conversion was done for, and specifically assigned to, and marked by the German Police. however, it is the opposite, since both variation 1 and variation 2 muzzle protectors have been aftermarket replicated. S.Al.II 1. The first modification was from an artillery holster to a police holster in the early to mid-1920s by cutting back to a P.08, 4-inch barrel length and is the first example not to add a toe plug, but instead by closing out or terminating the holster body toe like a standard P.08 holster. WOL, 1977 by S. Costanzo on page 105, described as a 1933 Heers Waffen Amt proof. During the Weimar Era, German police power remained decentralized. The 1928 Instruction for the Police of the State of Prussia, (V.f.d.P.) Pictured is a brown leather 1935 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with an eagle over circled K police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 7307; view 1, Pictured and described are Police Lugers in the collection, the first being 1908 commercial P.08 s/n 69859 shown with a period police holster. 19-105, being offered by a noted dealer for an equally extremely rare four-digit price, Possibly post-WW2 East Germany DDR Police holster. Faint, illegible makers markings are stamped inside the cover flap. These considerations must form the basis for the training of the police officer. RIA has no less than 19 rare Krieghoff Lugers including commercial and Luftwaffe military contract guns. Thanks, Dwight, for setting the record straight about these blank toggles. stamping for another letter or number, but since the upper portion of the left side rectangle enclosure line is partially obscured by the steel washer, resulting in a light stamping, missing a possible letter or number, which is a result of stamping too close to the underside washer, securing the cover flap steel stud. There's a number "1" above the serial number on the base, which is indicative of police issued magazines, as the police numbered their magazines this way. This has all matching numbers except for the proper grips and concentric ring, wooden base . subcommissions and left Germany during January 1927. it is stamped on the rear with the original holstered police Luger serial number 5008. fortunately the holster still retains the matching 5008 serial number stamped loading tool. Pw.B. view 2 and view 3. NowThis holster displays three distinct branches of service either real or fake. 413 or Landjgerei Gumbinnen; view 1 and view 2. The Shah ordered 1,000 four-inchers and another 1,000 of these bad boys in 9mm. Chapter 4 3rd Reich Police Lugers Chapter 5 DDR Deutsche Volkspolizei (People's Police) Lugers a complete catalog of Police Luger Markings The book has . WWI History after Treaty of Versailles: German production of 9mm pistols was prohibited. This statement appears to be somewhat contradicted, where earlier on page 1262 Fig. It is also unlikely that any of the cut-back artillery holsters will be located with police markings as per TBLAP VIII, C19 page 1267 where it states: Modified army pattern holsters, whether of short LP.08 pattern originally, were not subject to formal inspection and marking upon conversion to the police pattern. Pictured are multiple views of the four brass studs and their dimensions used with the subject holster. Army, Navy, Police, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Pictured is a 1941 dated SCAMBACH & Co BERLIN brown leather police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1, view 2, view 3 and view 4. Captain Ernst Roehm, future head of the SA [Sturmabteilung, a.k.a. $500. K.W.K. Come join the discussion about the history, technology and extraordinary background associated with these design masterpieces. and discussed in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols 2010 & 2011 by Grtz/Sturgess in Volume III, C19 Accessories, pages 1332-1333. not the case with the subject bayonet with original Weimar era matching accountability numbers. Please help me with identifying those markings. The frame tells us that it was an artillery (200mm barrel) and has had the barrel replaced by Simson & Co., the only one authorized to build Lugers after the great war by the treaty of Versailles. However, in 1941, Fraktur was banned in a Schrifterlass (edict on script) signed by Martin Bormann as so-called Schwabacher Judenlettern ("Schwabacher Jewish letters"). Additionally, it seems incongruous that a 1920s post WW1 manufacture brass stud was added or replaced when clearly period correct brass studs were available as attested by the added brass stud, while the apparent goal was to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and cover flap to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the lower replaced brass stud would clearly interfere with the insertion of a Police cleaning rod. If you collect Lugers, you need this book. 435 Municipal Police Berlin unit 13 Pistol s/n 9140e. The variation 1 police marked 4mm sub caliber muzzle protector that can be installed in a single step seems more practical for use with the police cleaning rod. This Luger has all matching numbers. The E/WaAJL16 is, by all accounts to date, similar to, or a variation of, the acceptance stamp for Factory Guard/Werkschutz issue. German: Foreign Mfg. The original brown leather holster was probably dyed/swabbed black, at this time, to conform to regulations. regulations issued in 1930, and are shown in the following table. Note: Black scabbard & frog is city. Pictured is a 1943 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN police holster with a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. The finish is very good and this model has a hold open latch and stock lug. Yes it DWM marked but without a chamber date. Pictured are multiple views of the above mentioned 1908/13 Commercial-Army-Police P.08 Luger, s/n 69859. states the following regarding this variation. although some examples have been modified to a single loop belt carry by rotating the There is one unusual barrel sight band/block/blade condition will not allow the attachment of the variation 2 muzzle protector to fit over the P.08 barrel. Pictured is another variation 1 style police S. B. Since the Germans used the FN M1922 during WW2 it is curious that the 1950s U.S. As a result, the young police officers are faced with new tasks, which prove to be all the more difficult since the new police not only ward off the risks of political and economic struggles, but above all are supposed to be brought back to their actual previous activities. Reportedly next to the remaining lot of 2,760 of these readied blank toggle pistols also a small quantity of unmarked toggles came from Berlin to Oberndorf. empire and the Prussian constitution have already seen some important additions: further laws are expected in the near future. Lot 0478, Jan 14, 2023. by dk598 16 Aug 2016, 04:12. The author, using the word reportedly, twice in the caption, suggests or implies that he is skeptical or not convinced that the ERMA pictured muzzle protector was used as described. Ventura, CA 93006, USA.) First Mass-produced Semi-automatic Pistol. 19-130 pictures a cut-back LP.08 holster with a text caption, specifically and unequivocally, stating that the holster cleaning rod sleeve was modified by addition of a wider top section and second stud to accommodate the long Police cleaning rod with soldered on travel stop i.e., if a police cleaning rod with brass stopper wont fit the original cleaning rod sleeve, what difference would it make, dimensionally, to extend the length and not the diameter of the holster body leather cleaning rod sleeve? The serial number for the pistol is 4801 with a suffix of "t" which was mentioned as one of the possibilites by Ron. In Berlin, the German Police screwed the barrels out and replaced them with 9 mm barrels. had 96 or 98 mm long barrels, and also only the 7.65 mm caliber. Regarding the use of the police cleaning rod in the field it can be used without the barrel affixed Mndungsschoner or muzzle protector. Magistrat und Polizeiverwaltung Stadt Reichenbach=Municipality and police administration City Reichenbach, Knigl. Mauser - Oberndorf, Germany&break;5. Mauser or the Police HQ in Berlin? Pictured for comparison are examples 1 and 2. is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation. Thanks. by Igorak89 09 May 2016, 18:58, Post The other marking is an inspection stamp, consisting of a crown over a 'fraktur,' or letter. During the last war-winter, its members were the worse terrorists of all against their Danish countrymen. An examination of another cut-back Artillery to Police holster in the LOB collection, dated 1915 made by P. Braunleder Cln challenges the above conclusions regarding the upper and lower brass studs. Pictured above are two books, Band I or Volume I Muzzle protectors along with police Lugers have been identified with police markings Xd out. Schutzpolizei (municipal police), Police (non-P08) Pistols & Holsters. WaA107 Auwrter & Bubeck, Stuttgart 1934, no example noted. 5.6 (Cleaning Kit 34) pictured (Fig. Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. The third is a late 1920s sear bar and magazine safety, German acceptance stamped E/WaA66 Police Luger s/n 4559t with the forward gripstrap marked as unit marked weapon number L.W.58. 127; view 1, Joachim Grtz in Die Pistole 08 2004, determined, which somewhat supports the above, earlier conclusion in Weimar Lugers, where on page 239 Grtz basically stated that: The police cleaning rod with the brass stop is unsuitable for carrying with the holster. Geit dem Frscheinen der ersten Uuslage im Febraur d. Zs. The first set of letters on the line indicate the military or police unit Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. Article created: Thursday, 25 January 2018 be a very rare, late date for a second conversion of a WW1 artillery holster to a P.08 style, police unit marked holster. These were finished and delivered by Mauser as stock on hand in the early '30s. back-side attached single, horizontal leather stock block strip and removing the center block. Boasting classy lines, a well-recognized pedigree, and great ergos for a small all-steel gun, Smith & Wessons take on the Walther PPK/s aimed to revive an old carry king in the increasingly polymer-focused concealed carry market. It has all matching parts to include the side plate and take down lever which were stamped again with the same 2 digits as before but on the front of each part like would would see on a military marked pistol. Pictured is a 1942 dated A. Fischer Berlin C.2 police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1 and view 2. There is no Police tool in the holster. Hesse, Saxony, and others. Nazi Lugers and their Accessories, by Jan C. Still, printed by Since the first edition was published in February d. Zs. Pictured for comparison are two different examples of Artillery holster cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass studs with demonstrably different shapes and sizes or dimensions. The conventional wisdom is that these were manufactured in 1929. Based on the wooden box style of the two examples, and the identical text font size and styles, that there are more of these cleaning kits with identical contents and that they are all, most likely made by the same German manufacturer. Fr soll an dem inneren Miederausbau mit= arbeiten, die ffentliche Gicherheit, Ordnung und Ruhe frdern und vor allem jedem Brger die Mglichteit geben, seiner sittlichen Bflicht zur Bettigung seiner geistigen und trperlichen Krfte zum Mohle der Gesamtheit zu gengen. The magazine has a blued tube and aluminum base. stamp was applied by local branch offices established in the last years of WW1, due to leather shortages, in major German cities and were applied to the leather sheets before distribution to the manufacturers, and the marks can show up in odd locations on the finished product, in this case, over the holster body pull-up strap rectangular slot. There are several markings on the holster. 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