The stack would not have been hit had the pilot not busted minimums and gone below the MDA. The Cessna 421 plane crash was just after 11 am local time this morning. This was not the fault of any tower on the processing plant. Discussion has returned to "the pilot was willfully continuing far below MDA of 4560 and couldn't see". That's the only certainty we have at this stage about its position. Hiring requires vetting and training. "Yeah, no. Yes,you are right, I did a copy and paste and wanted to refresh myself on comments on icing perhaps being a factor which I didn't know could happen in light snow. Also, if were going to go there, Id go as far as to say most all were incorrect as to the cause of the incident of N56KJ. The POH manual in most light singles states that you don't deploy flaps during an engine out until your aim point can be confirmed to be made just as in regular landing configuration when powered. Kathryn's Report: Most Read This Year Cessna 208B Grand Caravan, N928JP: Fatal accident occurred April 13, 2022 near Burley Municipal Airport (KBYI), Cassia County, Idaho Cirrus SR22 GTS, N24LA: Fatal accident occurred May 06, 2022 in the Atlantic Ocean near Tybee Island, Georgia Subsequently, the controller cleared the pilot for the RNAV runway 20 approach via the MALTT transition at BYI. Precision matters to actual pilots. From the approach plate "RNAV (GPS) RWY 20 Burley Muni BYI": The approach path angle is 3.75 degrees. Kathryn's Report: Most Read All Time. "Don't bust minimums. The Gem plant was described as newly constructed when highlighted in a 2012 upgrade project info page:http://www.roguepump.com/documents/gem-state-processing-case-study.pdf, The Gem Plant in Heyburn shows up at 2010 on the company history timeline, here:https://www.oregonpotato.com/aboutopc/#history, January 2011 news article expected the new plant to be up and running spring or early summer that year:https://www.potatopro.com/news/2011/burleyheyburn-dehydrated-potato-plant-open-early-year. Go back in your mommas basement and eat your Cheetos and watch SpongeBob. The Cessna took off from nearby Berkeley County Airport just before 11 a.m., likely on it's way to Myrtle Beach. That 31,000-fpm descent rate is one of the last pieces of usable radar data the Nashville TRACON's radar recorded from N66BK, a Cessna Citation 501, before it crashed into Lake Percy Priest . Their airplane was fully intact like this one.Here is a quote from that report:"The FAA published Seat Belts and Shoulder Harnesses, Smart Protection for Small Airplanes (AM-400-90/2). He saw the KR comments detailing 2 statute mile visibility METAR trending 2.5 miles with lowest clouds well above MDA and also the correlated and mapped descent angle calculations.Tuber commenting by the mindless fans is praising him for apologizing in what was just his latest heartless disparaging of a lost pilot for views. She loved spending time with her father, who taught her to play basketball, hunt, fish, and fly. Recently she appeared on Los Angeles television representing airport interests in a debate with the Airport Neighbors Association. The plane is resting upside down pointing towards the probable point of impact about 90 feet away, with about a 190 degree counter clockwise rotation and flip supporting the left wing strike probably. "4,000 feet is short for a Caravan? "B.S. Freight dispatchers aren't the ones responsible for letting under-equipped airports remain that way. On a cold day, the 020 approach to Burley Airfield could hardly be worse. In general, FlightAware is not intended to be an accurate indication of aircraft altitudes and positions for forensic purposes, so armchair investigators would do well not to draw detailed conclusions from FA data. Rest easy. The insurance company, the salvage team, the trauma center were all baffled at how I survived the crash. I grew up near a small airport most people just complained about the noise, and crashes until it was shut down tract homes were built there. There is something definitely sticking above the top of the chimney on a yellow pole coming from the cage.While it will be interesting to see if the GPS or WAAS signal was degraded for the GPS RWY 20 approach, the pilot should have been in visual conditions./ME. Reply Delete. Brain goes haywire, confuses an expressway for a dark runway, flies into a hill not knowing until the last minute. The decision to divert was made before descending from cruise altitude. "The captains poor performance during the accident flight was consistent with past performance deficiencies in flying nonprecision approaches noted during training; the errors that the captain made were likely the result of confusion over why the profile did not engage, his belief that the airplane was too high, and his lack of compliance with standard operating procedures." As seen in many urban locations, local city zoning permits industry to build around urban airports. The single isolated stack is perfectly positioned to snag an aircraft that is suddenly enshrouded in the condensate clouds and losing altitude. All messages must be civil in tone; if critical, must be constructive. About 0832:25, the airplane came into viewAccording to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, . But to go below the MDA prior to 1.1 miles from the runway kinda busts the approach. 2 Vista residents killed in small plane crash in Arizona. Sorry your flight sim game didn't cover that. First, it is sad that we lost such a wonderful young lady who had nothing but love in her heart and who served others selflessly. She was also trained in aerobatic flying, advanced spin training, and upset recovery training. There was a small plane crash in North Carolina on June 16, 2022. That's too slow. The mash adheres to the drums, but is not exposed to the steam inside, and dries. So the potato plant has their own fan club that is going to come to their defense if they get blamed for this crash? The lights would have been hazy through a fog of snow and steam. 1 - 24. there's no margin for error.My previous post - http://www.kathrynsreport.com/2022/04/cessna-208b-grand-caravan-n928jp-fatal.html?showComment=1650993837300#c308390018535584787 I, You are a good sport to allow me to reference the database record and dangle the alluring suggestion that the FAA obstruction record is more accurate than your assumptions. Oh BTW no head trauma whatsoever. Yes, sorry about the typo, runway 20, not 30. You can use the controls at the top to stop at 14:31:00 and have a look:http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KSFX&prod=CREF&bkgr=color&endDate=20220413&endTime=15&duration=1(Link will show that look-back until seven days from 4/13, so copy images before they are no longer accessible if of interest.). I'm guessing she was tired and flying in bad conditions, with a wall of steam from those chimneys and a roof cleared of snow by heat, and she mistook the roof for the extended threshold. I'd be the same. "It would be more enlightening if you pointed out that due to TERPS, the only approach that could be approved was a non-precision LNAV with no vertical guidance and a steep 3.75 descent angle due to the silos and other obstructions."False. Sorry. The pilot went around on the first approach well before reaching the stacks and also at over 200 feet higher. 7. &0183;&32;A 35-year-old Madison man died and a 23-year-old Madison man was injured in a two-vehicle accident on US 421 north of Madison Sunday night. A Ninety-Nines newsletter described the judge's wife Doris's successful effort to keep SMO open back when she was on the commission. There is no indication as yet that the pilot was given the special automated report. Fortunately, no one was hurt.The step up from the instruction/GA world to single-pilot 135 is huge. Do that at many many airports and you'll probably hit something. they should be required to fly out to these locations on days like this once in a while for the education needed to make safer decisions on where these pilots must go risk their lives every day. You don't have any vertical guidance at all, so if you're a bit low for whatever reason you don't know it then you're dead. Additionally, someone posted where the chimney was located, about 100 feet to the left. Older Model Caravans have a history of crashes in icing conditions. The location where the witness was viewing from is a significant factor for interpreting what is reported as seen. i suggest you read it, and digest it. I can't admire anyone for being in a GA aircraft at 95 years old. He owns the minds of those fans and is working toward harvesting their donations in the times ahead. The falling droplets drag air down. But looking northeast toward the plant from the end of RWY20, the elevation difference on the opposite bank appears to be a lot more than 4 feet. Gray light is the worst, and that sort of snow just is impossible to see through clearly. Anonymous, if the visibility was as good as you say it was, why did the pilot hit the tower? Notice the visibility when looking at a distance horizontally in the 25 to 28 and 44 to 47 second portions of the video. Would the FAA have allowed the company to mount a strobe on the top of that stack, or would it have interfered with the sight picture for a pilot on the glideslope for a landing? I would really like to see some *measured* data of the actual height of that tower before it was razed, as well as its MSL elevation. First approach got down to 4375 which is 185 below MDA. The process needs to be robust and agnostic in the person being hired. It would be more enlightening if you pointed out that due to TERPS, the only approach that could be approved was a non-precision LNAV with no vertical guidance and a steep 3.75 descent angle due to the silos and other obstructions. Wonder who got paid off to approve that nonsense building permit. Couple years ago we hired an attractive young lady, a flight instructor, to fly Caravans at our single-pilot Pt.135 operation. If you fly through a light, dry snow shower, you're unlikely to see ice accumulation. If there is an option because the beach is completely unoccupied, is there an ideal choice to make between aiming for the sand or the water? It's not just a pipe. About 0832:25, the airplane came into view in a wings-level, nose-high descent. "Gee, thanks Captain obvious. Take this for what it is - some old pilot's opinion. The condensate can blow into your path within seconds, unexpectedly. I know this is a LNAV approach so vertical guidance is not provided as it is on a precision approach.Here is the approach plate: you have to zoom in to see the 4304' stackhttps://flightaware.com/resources/airport/BYI/IAP/RNAV+(GPS)+RWY+20/pdfHere is the track-log:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklog. Maybe make runway lights magenta, leave the centerline green. The Flight Safety Cessna Caravan Emergency Memory Items Check List calls for Airspeed85 KIAS for Model 208 without flaps or with 20 degrees flaps for an Model 208B Engine Failure Immediately After Takeoff. The approach plate shows the smokestack at 4,304' MSL. A home without a TV is "weird" here. Quickest way to get there Cheapest option Distance between. Looking at flightaware data, the pilot made two approaches on RNAV RWY 20. In lieu of flowers, the Infanger family is welcoming donations for a scholarship fund in Brittneys honor. If the plume broadly affected approaches, this wouldn't have been the first occurrence. Don't forget that NOTAMs should not be permanent notations but rather temporary fixes or transient notifications until the appropriate official guidance can be updated. It is nonsense to suggest that because the perfect approach was 100ft to the side of the stack and above it, that it was okay! A very strange UPS A300 crash in Birmingham was never assigned a direct cause - just CFIT below minimums. )How far is the approach path above the smokestack? After the pilot report established at IREME, the controller cleared the pilot for the approach. Cessna 172 Skyhawk, N6238D, Skylane Aviation LLC: Fatal accident occurred March 26, 2016 at Yeager Airport (KCRW), Charleston, Kanawha County, West Virginia Aviation Accident Final Report - National Transportation Safety Board: https://app.ntsb.gov/pdf NTSB Identification: ERA16FA141 14 CFR . Left wing may have been inertia-separated.The wrecked engine bay is visible to the right of the flipped forward pilot's door and the PT-6 air plenum is identifiable in that torn open forward bay wreckage.Kameraone.com's scene video:https://www.kameraone.com/trending-stories/#7568616, For reference, a C208B PT-6 air plenum example photo:https://media.sandhills.com/img.axd?id=7257643989&wid=4326165471&rwl=False&p=&ext=&w=0&h=0&t=&lp=&c=True&wt=False&sz=Max&rt=0&checksum=MwQ%2b3%2fmnuLw%2bzq2hh%2ftYM0KEexS1%2fpTBK5zoSVQPYb8%3d, Active snow fall is captured after the 14 second mark in this video of the crash scene. Aviation don't care who you are. Prior to that, the 6,950' altitude transmitted while going back for the second attempt adjusts to the expected 7,000' with the +50' compensation. Brittney was preceded in death by her paternal and maternal grandparents, Vera and Ray Infanger and Idell and Don Weeks, and her brother, Earl James E.J. Infanger. There's no way to verify that your approach angle is correct because there's no vertical guidance nor is there a PAPI or VASI on that runway. Weather, 20 minutes before incident, was 1 mile, light snow, broken at 2300, overcast at 2800. I totally agree with you. Survivors. However, I do not live out there and haven't seen the stack in person.https://gray-kmvt-prod.cdn.arcpublishing.com/resizer/Z9XA94vRdq5ABRdEofwGJeK0tGE=/1200x675/smart/filters:quality(85)/cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/gray/JNAC4GVPRBC7RHHQSIO3P2WAEY.JPGAnonymous Said: "I wouldn't start speculating that they hit the silos, without proof, because those of us who live there see no indication that the silos or cooling towers were touched. I know this is an uncorrected altitude for temp/pressure so if you add the 50 to 100' as suggested above for correction, that would put the aircraft at about 4250' MSL. With airlines short of pilots, why was this 30 year old college grad "COMMERCIAL PILOT Date of Issue: 1/3/2020" flying UPS 208 Grand Caravans? Yesterday's divert impact/scramble is fresh in pilot's mind.4. Succinct. Personal attacks and hate speech directed at the NTSB investigators, FAA investigators, Designated Pilot Examiners, Kathryn, as well as other members of the aviation blog, are unacceptable because they are not constructive. But that stack never should have been there. ).Although there is not likely to be an easy way to know what google tolerance/accuracy is, my posting of the obstruction database for that stack referenced a pdf for decoding the raw record, which includes how to decipher the declared accuracy of the "verified" FAA obstruction info. She not only saw the best in people, she brought out the best in people. I can see someone trying to land on the roof of that factory, confusing it for the extended threshold of the runway in the bad conditions. veteran helicopter pilot reviews kobe bryant crash air. Sure, reported airport weather can be different than what you experience on approach, but it is quite unlikely that less than 1 mile off airport, the ceilings dropped from 2100 AGL to 200 AGL and visibility halved from 2SM to 1SM to keep the pilot in IMC when the airport weather was trending in the opposite direction. "Calculations of how much mass of water vapor was being delivered by the stacks and mixed into the air above the plant, with diffusion, spread and distance of the effect from the point of emission weren't in the preliminary. Thus, the top of the stack would be 120ft AGL relative to the runway threshold, due to the first assumption. On 29 May 2021, a Cessna 501 Citation I/SP crashed into the Percy Priest Lake in Tennessee. What does this flight have in common other than Idaho residents? Source:https://trellis.law/judge/rex.h.minterAirmen registry shows he and Doris BOTH having Commercial Pilot and Mechanic A&P certs, ASEL, Instrument (plus AMEL for him), his last third class med exam 1998, hers 2013. Sorry, but that's insane.You can pull data all day long from flight records and try to figure out why she did what she did, but the fact remains that a published non-precision LNAV approach that misses a smokestack by 61' is unacceptable. Interesting read, what a tragedy. poor maintenance blamed for cessna 337 crash. What does ADSB have to do with this preventable accident? At 1407 Eastern Standard Time [] on 26 May 2019, a Cessna Aircraft Company T210M (C210), registered VH-SUX (SUX) and operated by Thomson Aviation, departed Mount Isa Airport for an aerial geophysical survey flight with a pilot and observer on board. A couple sleeping in the house narrowly . The pilot was fatally injured. When there is wind, vapour rises up and away from the stacks, condenses, and begins to fall. / 45.4288; 9.2545. Most of "those pilots" (as you call them) do just fine at almost all single pilot 135 operations and if they "don't get it", it's your job to weed them out. Look at the Blancolirio video on YT, he shows where they were in relation to the runway. But if the temperature is warm (roughly 0C to -5C), wet snow mixed with liquid water could to stick to your airplane.Dec 11, 2021Frost disrupts the smooth flow of wind over the wing causing reduced lift. A highly paid government administrator owns that failure.Perhaps we should instead ask ourselves why our government prints money for the endless series of foreign wars and funding of every new citizen who wades across our southern border but we can't equip these airports with an ILS.Put 14 billion on it. The approach path passes just above the smokestack, and there's no vertical guidance because it's LNAV only. Replies. The MDA is no longer applicable once you have the airport in sight. Condolences and humble prayers to Brittneys family and kin. The real-life nature of what transpired reveals a complete pilot disregard for a multitude of no-go factors and specifically communicated warnings.https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=13775462&FileExtension=pdf&FileName=CEN20FA022_CVR_Report_RELEASE-Rel.pdfDocket:https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=100636. (Although it is interesting to speculate, and discuss.). This information is added by users of ASN. (NTSB). The collision smokestack is 2,639' from the threshold (measured on Google Earth). The dent in the stack is at the middle of the second from top section of flanged stack piping, a distance of approximately 14 feet below the top of the stack.A C208 gear leg is not 14 feet below the wing, making it non-credible to suggest that the wing cleared the top but the gear leg struck the stack fourteen feet lower down.As for the dive down mistakenly theory - what did she see that looked like the Snake river in front of the threshold? That full sequence of reports showing 6, 2 1/2, 1 1/2, 1. There is photographic evidence of the stacks on the roof at the collision location in a 2018 Town News article about the plant, so they have been there at least that long. At the least, the isolated stack should have been brightly illuminated using LEDs, and painted with alternating yellow and black rings along its entire height. The National Transportation Safety Board Aviation (NTSB) Accident Preliminary report said poor weather and flying low near a mountain may have impacted the Kekaha airplane crash that happened on . After being "on" at JAMID, these were the descent angles flown:From JAMID to Data Point "B", angle flown was -4.1From Data Point "B" to Data Point "A", angle flown was -6.5, For comparison of speeds, alts, angle flown, map-pin locations:C208B N585SA flew N928JP's duty/schedule SLC to BYI on 15 April.https://registry.faa.gov/AircraftInquiry/Search/NNumberResult?nNumberTxt=N585SAN585SA's landing 15 April into Burley RW20 in VFR conditions:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N585SA/history/20220415/1339Z/KSLC/KBYIhttps://flightaware.com/live/flight/N585SA/history/20220415/1339Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklogMETAR during landing:KBYI 151430Z AUTO 27009KT 10SM FEW043 BKN055 OVC080 01/M02 A2992(Note A2992 in METAR, makes reported ADS-B altitudes true)At location 355 feet NEast of JAMID as Data Point 1:Fri 10:33:11 AM 42.5672 -113.7434 216 120 138 4,825 -830maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5672+-113.7434Data Point 2, -225'AltDiff, 3,415' distant from 1 = -3.8Fri 10:33:28 AM 42.5598 -113.7511 219 120 138 4,600 -821maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5598+-113.7511Data Point 3, -350'AltDiff, 5,115' distant from 2 = -3.9Fri 10:33:53 AM 42.5487 -113.7627 217 119 137 4,250 -840maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5487+-113.7627Raw 15 April BYI METAR link:https://mesonet.agron.iastate.edu/cgi-bin/request/asos.py?station=BYI&data=all&year1=2022&month1=4&day1=15&year2=2022&month2=4&day2=16&tz=Etc%2FUTC&format=onlycomma&latlon=no&elev=no&missing=M&trace=T&direct=no&report_type=1&report_type=2, When substitute C208B N585SA flew N928JP's duty/schedule into BYI RW20 two days after the crash in VFR conditions as detailed above, that pilot maintained 120 knots ground speed plus the headwind at the time resolved from 27009KT at BYI.The 3.8 to 3.9 angle flown by the substitute aircraft on 15 April between JAMID and Data Point 3's 7th avenue at Snake River location was NOT a "clear the potato plant, then dive for the runway" approach.Was the accident pilot accustomed to flying at a lower approach speed into BYI than she would maintain for a longer runway, such as TWF?The divert landing to TWF RW26 on the day before the accident shows 102 knots ground speed in the 27018KT wind there, which is an airspeed of 120 knots at that last data point located approximately 2100 feet distant from the threshold:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.4805+-114.4631The accident aircraft's 4 April landing to BYI RW20 in VFR conditions showed 87 knots ground speed in the 23009KT wind there at the time, which is an airspeed of 96 knots at that last data point located just after passing over the potato plant: http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5501+-113.7611It is possible that the accident pilot was accustomed to routinely flying the BYI approach at reduced airspeed but experienced diminishing lift at the lower approach speed during the accident approach due to contamination accumulation on flight surfaces that built up during two approach attempts in light snow and mist.She was "on" at JAMID, flew a 4.1 descent angle about halfway to the potato plant, then the descent angle increased to 6.5 in the final 21 seconds on the way to the stack.Links:Diverted flight, 12 April:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220412/1300Z/KSLC/KBYIPrevious N928JP BYI RW20 landing, 4 April:https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220404/1318Z/KSLC/KBYI. 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